Author Topic: Jet / Rod Combination Advice  (Read 2212 times)

Offline hullinger

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Jet / Rod Combination Advice
« on: April 20, 2014, 06:02:32 PM »
The carb on my '73 Olds Custom Cruiser was replaced with another Q-jet when I bought the car a few months ago. The 455 engine is bone stock and had a very bad light throttle, low RPM bog while the spark plugs showed a very lean condition. I pulled the carb and saw the jets were 69 and metering rods were 53C. I suspected the carb was set-up more for a 350 than the 455 that I have. So, I upjetted the carb to a 70 with no change in the bog. I changed the jets again to a 71 and now she is running and accelerating as smooth as silk but the spark plugs are still showing a lean condition. I think I need to richen up a bit more but don't want to overdo it and blow up my already lousy gas mileage.

So I am really hoping for some advice on what I should do with the metering rods to really dial in the carb and get the air/fuel ratio right where it needs to be.

Offline omaha

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Re: Jet / Rod Combination Advice
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2014, 09:23:37 PM »
sometimes it is hard to get a true read on the plugs these days. the gas nowadays makes it harder. If it were me, I would use a cheap O2 gauge to get a better idea. Even if you just use a narrow band, that would give you a good idea especially if you are running lean. The way you describe it, it would seem like you have richened it up to the point where it is either spot on or ever so slightly lean. Of course cliff has recommendations in his book for setting up the jetting/rods and the bleeds. If it "surges" at all while at a steady cruise (no enrichment by the rods due to high vac signal) then it will need just a bit more. Usually, the needle needs to somewhat match the jet but there is a window as far as the size goes but if I remember it needs to be in the .030-.035 range smaller than the jet. (its in the book) If you go too far, then the bleeds MIGHT need to be made larger too. I am sure Ethan has the specs for the carb that came on that engine, (hint hint). Those would be nice to know also.

Offline Cliff Ruggles

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Re: Jet / Rod Combination Advice
« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2014, 04:13:52 AM »
Changing jets alone will effect part throttle and heavy/full throttle A/F.

Most likely you only need to reduce the metering rod diameter.  I can spec out a much better jet/rod combination that what you are currently using.  I would also install one of our kits while the carb is apart, as it will contain the correct high flow needle/seat assembly, and much better accl pump for his new fuel.....Cliff