Recent Posts

Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10
1
Diagnose a Quadrajet carburetor problem / 7043251 set up advice
« Last post by 69442 on May 12, 2024, 07:58:18 PM »
I have a 1969 442 convertible with a true 9.6-1 455 Olds in it. It's essentially stock with big valve heads, TRW cast pistons, an old Erson Viking 100H cam (depending what cam card I read online it's either 223/223 at .050" on a 113 or 233/233 on a 113. It seems a little too smooth an idle for 233/233 to me so that may have been a typo), Edelbrock Performer intake, recurved HEI and repro 2 1/2" exhaust manifolds and exhaust. I run it at 15 degrees initial timing and about 36 degrees total. I have a 200-4R trans, stock 12" 2000+ stall converter and a 3.91 rear axle. It was running pretty well but the carb was built in 2013, developed a slight hunt to it at hot idle and the exhaust was starting to smell rich. I figured I'd re-gasket it, look everything over inside and update it to more current parts.

It was set up with 69 main jets, 49B primary metering rods, .041" fuel pickup tubes, ,064 DCR, .070" upper main bleeds, the lower bleeds are bigger then .050" and smaller than .070" (I didn't think to measure them till I had the baseplate back on and didn't have anything between 050" and .070" I could bend 90 degrees to measure with), idle adjustment screw holes drilled to .089", AU secondary rods and blocked idle bypass air.

I changed it to 72 jets, 48B metering rods (next size down I have in stock was .041" which I thought was too small), .055" DCR, .038" pickup tubes, and added idle bypass air with .065" base plate holes. It runs very well and has 17" of vacuum at idle. It still smells slightly rich at idle but that may be as good as it gets. I'm open to suggestion on further tuning advice if you guys have any though. I thought the primary rod to jet ratio was supposed to be around 30 digits apart but it wasn't when I got in there and it was supposed to be set up like a 1970 Olds W33 engine (455/390 HP Delta 88 Police option). Thanks!
2
Buy Quadrajet Parts, Quadrajet Kits, Service / Rebuild kit for 17057216
« Last post by Mlcdc1 on May 11, 2024, 04:53:27 AM »
Picked up a 17057216 at reasonable price and would like to use it on my 1977 GMC C15 with original stock 350 engine(no modifications) & auto trans.  Can you recommend a rebuild kit and offer any suggestions on what to look at and on getting dialed in?  Thanks.
3
Lobby / Re: Looking for some advice on a stock sbc 350 build
« Last post by quadrajam on May 10, 2024, 06:02:11 PM »
Thats good information to know. I ended up finding a TRW wide set on ebay NOS. One day when
I get caught up I will swap it out.

QJ
4
I have a nice variety of jets and rods to work with now. Will block off the secondaries to assess primary jet performance. Once that’s good the rods will be dialed in.
5
Diagnose a Quadrajet carburetor problem / Re: 7041540 Buick 455 goes lean at WOT
« Last post by Rhett on May 10, 2024, 05:32:14 AM »
and Cliff BTW I see the fuel pressure from a couple years ago was regulated at 6.5 or so.. and back then too the lbs per hr reverses significantly. I wouldnt think that would happen if the bowl was looking for more fuel unless there was turbulence in the path. I never could figure whether that was a chicken or egg condition, but the RPMS were still climbing even if HP levelled off....
6
Diagnose a Quadrajet carburetor problem / Re: 7041540 Buick 455 goes lean at WOT
« Last post by Rhett on May 10, 2024, 05:21:18 AM »
So I said 6 but it could have been 7, it was regulated for Quadrajet use on the dyno and feeding the carb direct. This same thing happened with this carb on a different dyno a few years ago, but it ran so well in the car I just dismissed it as a fluke. In the car, this was running 12.4's-5's and never missing a beat and given the build and HP thats exactly what I was expecting, it was putting out the MPH that I would expect from the Holley pulls (435hp/516tq). It wasnt as lean at WOT as it is with this cam, but I never really bothered to spend a lot of time finding out either. The car has a AC pump and stock fuel lines.

Fast forward to this build, and the car is again on it's way to putting out the MPH I would expect from the new cam (441hp/544tq)  and while it's somewhat lean at WOT (13.5 if you trust a tailpipe bung), it runs great, idles clean and low, pulls good vacuum, great throttle response, clean fuel  delivery to 5700 etc..I just dont want to leave anything on the table.

I've got two other 540's, one built and testing, one ready to bubild. This car likes a lot of fuel and a lot of bypass with my current carb, but I may be covering for too much bypass with too much fuel because I just stairstepped my way into the current config till it ran right. I'd like to take a more scientific approach with the next two, and make sure I kick that Holley's ass. 

Lightning Boy, I'll throw some sheets up from the dyno sessions three years ago.while I dont have EGT's, there is more info there. I couldnt run the air flow meter cause we coulnt cobble it to the air cleaner base at the time and clear the dyno throttle linkage.
7
Lobby / Re: Looking for some advice on a stock sbc 350 build
« Last post by Cliff Ruggles on May 10, 2024, 05:17:56 AM »
They still offer the wide link belt sets for SBC and Pontiac.

Try Googling part number 3-489S, Melling or Speed Pro.

Here is an NOS 3/4" wide Pontiac set on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255023708000

I would never use any type of double-roller timing set in one of my engines.  Even so I would recommend anyone going that direction to get a set with USA made billet sprockets (9 keyway) and the IWIS chain........Anything less than that is bovine excrement.....IMHO....
8
Lobby / Re: leaf spring traction
« Last post by Cliff Ruggles on May 10, 2024, 05:03:54 AM »
You do NOT need bars of any kind, most look like chit anyhow.

I won the Pontiac Nat's 5 times with two trips to the King of the Hill Race (last man standing) without any kind of traction bars.

First order of business is to weld the axle tubes to the carrier. 

Get some good tires.

Install sub-frame connectors and box/weld them in place instead of bolting them in.

Fabricate an adjustable pinion snubber to control the upward travel of the differential with good traction.  I simply modified mine by making a bracket and shims for it.

I would also recommend having a good driveshaft made with 1350 Brute Force U joints in it.  Billet yoke on the diff and slip joint for the drive shaft even better.

I like and use Chrysler SS leaf springs on my GM cars but you can get away with making clamps to stiffen up the front sections of stock springs if they are in good shape.  It's also a good idea to drill thru the stack of springs and replace the whimpy little bolts with 7/16 or even 1/2 grade 8 bolts that hold the stack of springs together.  Double check the welds on you leaf spring perches.  I've yanked them off the tubes a few times so just make it a habit of reinforcing those welds while I'm setting up the diff.

Replace the factory posi unit with a good clutch type. The Eaton unit is excellent.  The factory "S" and other type posi units are weak and spider gear breakage is going to happen, IF you are making any kind of power at all and find good traction.

Mosier axles are also a nice upgrade.  I prefer the bolt in variety vs the "C" clip versions.

I know all of this sounds like "over-kill", but at the end of the day you will be able to "hit" the suspension with full power, hook hard and lift the front of the vehicle without twisting the chit out of the chassis or breaking something.

WAY back in the late 1990's I starting taking steps to make my 73 Ventura faster at the track.  I broke EVERYTHING behind the engine a couple of times before doing what is described above. 

Once all that was up to par I went another 25 years and broke nothing, even hitting it with over 600ft lbs torque and running 1.5 60' times. 

The best part about all of it is that there are no visible traction devices.  Bars look like chit on those leaf spring cars and not nearly effective at controlling diff "wind-up" as simply stopping the upper travel of the diff at the source instead of trying to do it out on the axle tubes........hope this helps some......
9
Just trying to help. Hope you get it figured out. Usually if you see BSFC numbers higher on the top end of a dyno pull you can lean it out a little and it will gain power.. It would have been nice to see EGT temps from the pull and we would know. Being a little lean at the top end doesn't cost 30HP, but being too fat does.
10
What fuel pump are you using?  Fuel delivery system to the pump?

6psi is marginal fuel pressure for the .135" seat for you dyno runs.  If you saw power loss or falling off around 4900rpms you were sucking the bowl really low.

I going to a larger fuel inlet seat doesn't help then it's telling you either fuel pressure is too low and/or fuel delivery inadequate for the power level.

I've never once in all the years of doing this been outran anywhere by a Holley or any other type of carburetor on the dyno or at the track, provided we took steps to keep the Q-jet full on hard pulls or hard runs........
Pages: [1] 2 3 ... 10