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Offline Cadman-iac

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Ethanol free fuel
« on: February 01, 2025, 09:26:42 AM »
  I've noticed a few stations in the area that are selling the ethanol-free fuel, and I was wondering if you have any thoughts or experiences using this instead of the crap from the regular pumps.
 Does this stuff effect the accelerator pump cups and needles like the ethanol laced fuel does? It's priced like premium, and before I try it I wanted to know if it's worth the money and hassle.

 Thanks

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2025, 07:18:24 PM »
I dont have any problems with the E10 fuel in my cars, boat motors, mower etc.
If I let anything set for long periods of time I will use ethenol free with fuel stabilizer.
With the small 2 smoke engines I started using the canned fuel. Lots easier.

If your using Cliffs parts in a Q-jet you wont have any problems.

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2025, 02:42:41 AM »
  Is there any performance advantage to using the ethanol-free fuel,  more bang for your buck so to speak?

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2025, 03:09:39 AM »

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2025, 11:58:50 PM »
Depends of the tune-up.

https://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Ethanoluse.htm

 Wow! That's a lot to take in. It sounds like if you use the ethanol-free stuff you can tune like the factory intended, but if you are using the ethanol crap you will have to recalibrate for it.
 Going with the ethanol-free fuel means that you will have to make sure you can get to another station that sells it if you plan on traveling too.

 Thanks for the link, that explains a lot.

Offline Cliff Ruggles

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2025, 05:46:36 AM »
Nothing really wrong with ethanol blended fuels as far as engine performance is concerned. 

It does soak up some water in a vented system, so plan accordingly.

It will also swell up and destroy most accl pump seals being supplied today.  My accl pumps and seals are impervious to it and the only ones out there with a lifetime warranty in any type of fuel.

Below is a pic of what happens to the "blue" or "black" pump seals from your kit if you didn't buy it here.

My seal is on the right.  These pics were taken during a class I put on couple of summers ago in front of many witnesses.  At the beginning of the class I put all three seals in pump fuel at 10 percent ethanol.

A couple hours into the class we took a break and this is the result.  Swollen pump seals result in difficult or "no-start" scenarios after the carb sits for a few days, and eventually they either roll off the pump or rip/tear.  Between fuel evaporation, drain back and none getting past the seal to fill the pump well on the upstroke of the pump cold starts are a real issue.

This is almost ALWAYS miss-diagnosed as a bottom plug leaking issue and starts a chain of events where the owner starts all sorts of needless repairs to bottom plugs that were NOT leaking in the first place.....FWIW.....

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Re: Ethanol free fuel
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2025, 01:19:18 PM »
 Yup, the last couple of carbs I've torn down that had recently been used so had been exposed to the ethanol fuel had bad pump seals.