ive driven the tubes too far down. i punched them thru with a .09 punch. i saw on from the top and never saw the other. the one i could see was laying crooked against the jet. then i tried taking a wire, turning the body upside down and wiggling the wire in an effort to dislodge. then i couldnt see it anymore. then i noticed, both were way down at the bottom. with only the tapered end exposed inside of the "cups" at the bottom of body. tried taking a thick, bent paperclip and tried to shove back upward. is it a lost cause, or is there a little trick im not aware of? i tried searching with no results. carb is 17056240