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Niblet

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I have a 1967 Camaro SS350 built in Los Angles in the 3rd week of Nov 1966
it has the California A.I.R. system, has factory A/C, a Factory installed 3 speed on the floor manual trans,
the POP plate indicates a Rochester carb but that's about all I can figure

The Carb on it right now codes out to be for a 1968 Big Block so I KNOW this is NOT the original carb
all the books and internet info is a bit confusing
most data says that a 7037203 is what I need. However I was using Cliff's data and Im thinking that I need 7036503??? or something similar.
I believe I am getting hung up on the "date of MFG" VS the "model year"
my question is then should I be looking for a mid to late '66 manufactured Qjet?
should it then have the round disk?
or do I need a carb with a "7" for the model year because my car is a '67??
pls help! I'm lost 
Thanks in advance! 

Offline Frank400

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2019, 05:23:43 PM »
I know I have a 7027203 if that is what you need.  I'd have to dig to find it but I know I have one. 

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2019, 06:11:51 PM »
Its looking that way, if you run across it let me know, I'm interested

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2019, 07:59:13 PM »
You need a 67 model year carb to be correct.  So it would be 7037203 since you had AIR. 7037213 was also correct for later production. Many were service replacement dates. Most of the 67
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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2019, 06:18:50 AM »
ok,,but I still dont get it,, how does one tell when a particular Qjet was manufactured then?
and how to determine of it was a service replacement?
sorry for the confusion

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2019, 11:27:22 AM »
There is a date code stamp.
On those early units with the round tag, there is a 2 digit, such as A7. January, 1967.
Later production Rochester units have 4 digit stamp either on base or main body. 0338 would be 33rd day of 1968.
If the "67" quadrajet was produced in 1970, it would be a service replacement. Same carb, but built for counter sales or warranty replacements at dealership.
Cliff has information on the date coding and numbering systems on his website.
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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2019, 11:50:47 AM »

Cliff has information on the date coding and numbering systems on his website.

Yes and I read it, but I am still a bit confused, according to his info a 7037203
may not be what i want, every Camaro reference book I have says it is
I believe I am misunderstanding Cliff's info,,,and hoping for him to weigh in

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 02:41:51 AM »
Here's a copy of some info I provided recently on the subject:

Original 1965-67 and early 1968 units will have round tags pressed and staked into a recess in the main casting on the drivers side, at least from what I've seen here. 

Below is an exert from some information on-line referencing Rochester and Carter built carburetors:

For 1967, the Rochester Monojet (1MV) and Rochester Quadrajet (4MV) carburetors had the date code, identification number, change letter, and broadcast code stamped on a round metal disk pressed into a recess on the driver's side of the main body. The date code is again in a letter/number format where the letter is the month of manufacture and the number is the year, e.g., C7.

Starting in 1968, the Rochester Monojet (1MV) identification number was roll stamped into the drivers side of the float bowl, along with the broadcast code.
The very early 68 Quadrajets (4MV) had the identification number, date code, and broadcast code stamped into the round metal disk pressed into a recess on the driver's side of the main body (like the 67 Quadrajets). Later Quadrajet carburetors were roll stamped into the vertical boss on the driver's side main body (just behind the secondary throttle shaft). The date code was stamped either on the base of the carburetor toward the rear on the driver's side of the car, or on the vertical boss next to the identification number. The date will be in a four-digit format (where the first three numbers are the Julian day and the last number being the year).

Carter-built 4MV Quadrajet carburetors will show the "MFG BY CARTER" designation and continued using the date code format where the letter is the month of manufacture and the number is the year, e.g., C8.

There is also some confusion with roll stamped SR or Service Replacement units.  In 1967, for example a Quadrajet starting with 703 instead of 702 indicated CA emissions or A.I.R. was used on that engine.

In later years when they made batches of SR carburetors for the 1967 model year they were roll stamped starting with "703" instead of 702.  Some literature on the subject indicates that using a "3" instead of a "2" on the later roll stamped units meant they were SR units not strictly for A.I.R or CA applications.

Doesn't really matter either way and I'm not taking sides or going to get into a pissing contest with anyone about it.  I do know from what I've seen here original 1967 Quadrajets will have a round tag on the main casting vs being roll stamped.........Cliff

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2019, 02:47:43 AM »
I'll add to that some.  It can be difficult to find an original round tag 1967 carb in good enough shape to rebuild/restore.  They can also be a bit expensive.  100 percent of them will leak at the bottom plugs and some part numbers still used the crappy 1965-66 plunger type needle/seat assemblies with the bypass system. 

They are pretty much hopeless for any sort of performance application and will leak profusely at the bypass plug supplied in the rebuild kits (rubber "O" ring rots out) and most also leak at the lead plug just below the fuel filter housing where they were cross-drilled for the bypass.

I hate to see those come in here and typically avoid them.

You'd be much better off with a later 7029207 Service Replacement unit.  Far superior to anything pre-1969 in every respect including the calibration.  They are a true factory high performance Q-jet and to this day folks racing in Stock Eliminator and other racing classes that must use a q-jet are looking for them.......Cliff

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2019, 03:40:11 AM »
very nice, Thanks for the advice, I am going to take it, I sent you a PM as far as where I could source a 7029207 Service Replacement unit.
Thanks again!

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Re: Frustrated at finding the correct Qjet Number for my car-Help! :)
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2019, 08:07:38 AM »
Thanks for the heads up!