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Offline Overcamber

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Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« on: April 20, 2016, 08:17:48 AM »
finally had a chance to drive my truck with the new rebuilt carb.  Having a couple issues. First off wide open throttle  is crisp and clear. transition seems great!

My problem is low speed and city cruising speed.  Very light throttle , approx. 1400-1800rpm, 35 to 50 mph the mufflers are loading up and backfiring.  Even at 1/3 to 1/2 throttle. 

Can you suggest something I can try to alleviate this problem?

thanks Gary

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2016, 10:53:59 AM »
just tried turning in the apt 1/2 + another 1/2 and it didn't improve(thought it would make it leaner).  there is a slight grade and corner on my street that you have to take at 10mph and I can barely make it up without it sounding like a machinegun...I have louder type mufflers which amplifys the whole scenario

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2016, 11:26:06 AM »
just trying different things cause I'm off today.  turned in the apt all the way to find its original setting was at 4 3/4 turns out from bottom.

just tried 1 1/2turns out and not much difference.  its as though as soon as I squeeze the fuel its getting too much and begins to backfire??

let me know your thoughts/ this isn't my daily driver so I have some time to get it right.

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2016, 12:43:52 PM »
Man I give up ! Adjusted the mixture screws and everything seemed happy at 2 1/2 turns out .  Go to take it for a ride and it shut off . No fuel at idle . Runs with the choke on but quits the minute I kick the choke off ?

Glad I'm working tomorrow cause I'm about to burn this truck ! Lol

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2016, 09:32:45 PM »
it seems like you have a couple of issues , first it acts like its flooding, then it sounds like your running out of fuel, vacuum leak, float sticking,filter, plugged , is the carb staying full of fuel . you say its not your daily driver ,is there crud in the tank and it ran good for a little while and now garbage has gotten into the needle and seat.did you build the carb?these may seem like dumb questions but you need to verify them one at a time before you go making a ton of adjustments. fwiw

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2016, 02:31:30 AM »
no , I just got the carb back from Cliff.  I drive it a lot  but I meant I have a second vehicle to use at this time.

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2016, 02:49:02 AM »
What is the carburetor number and application?

Backfiring is usually lean not rich.  May be a vacuum leak if it's acting up an idle and low speed/light engine load......Cliff

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2016, 03:13:39 AM »
my carb number is   17086248         
                                  2315 JLH
its a 1986 gmc 1/2 shortbox 2wd   305 4bbl.

its isn't backfiring out the carb.  its backfiring in the mufflers.
thx Cliff

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2016, 06:12:51 AM »
Sounds like a possible issue with the ignition.
Jim

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2016, 01:13:12 PM »
although I wouldn't rule that out ,I find it very coincidental or odd its that as the carb worked fine in that area before I sent it away?. just saying? 
also it runs perfect at wide open throttle?  would an ignition problem only affect the problem area I'm having?

thanks Gary
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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2016, 02:35:16 PM »
The wires tend to break on the pickup coil in a HEI & can cause a similar deal. Not saying that's it but it might be worth looking at.
Jim

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2016, 07:04:09 PM »
Well I've had the truck since new and I know the pickup is original . 30 years old and 230000km so perhaps that's worth a look?
Curious what cliff has to add?

Really appreciate the help guys ! Keep it coming , it's great discussion .
Thank you

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2016, 09:00:30 PM »
this might sound stupid , but I've seen a cracked cap,wet cap or sticky weights in a distributor.act similar to this. fwiw

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2016, 04:31:21 AM »
Backfiring is almost always ignition, or the carb super lean at light part throttle, or a little of both.  Since it fattens up things at heavy/full throttle you may not have any issues there, but if trying to burn a lean mixture ignition issues show up quickly.......Cliff

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Re: Very rich at light throttle and cruising
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2016, 02:51:57 PM »
Ok I'll pull the distributed and start there /. Hope I find the cure !
Thx