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Offline 71stagegs

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What Spacer
« on: February 24, 2013, 04:35:10 PM »
Hello new to the site Cliff in building me a q-jet for my 464 buick.Motor is almost 11 to 1 so i run Snow perf water injection.I use a 1" open spacer on my performer intake with the nozzel inside the spacer.What does Cliff think of spacers?open 4 hole?With using one of his hi po Q-jets.Also I run ram air 2  4" hoses to the carb.  thanks Steve

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2013, 04:32:56 AM »
I've found the semi-open spacer to work the best, divided between the primaries and open or notched between the secondaries....Cliff

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2013, 08:01:46 AM »
Thanks for reply Cliff anyone have a pic?Thanks Steve

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2013, 10:05:26 AM »
Cliff white line  with notch in center?Should this be rouneded or straight.Thanks Steve
<a href="http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/buickgrandsport/media/OPEN_zps377e97c0.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/buickgrandsport/OPEN_zps377e97c0.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo OPEN_zps377e97c0.jpg"/></a>

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2013, 10:28:37 AM »
Cliff do you mean were I have white line or the other way and notched down for secondarys thanks Steve
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/buickgrandsport/OPEN_zps377e97c0.jpg

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2013, 09:14:27 PM »
   The spacer is in the book by Jim Hand, (Pontiac performance book). Wish I had a pic handy but the spacer is fairly "hand made" (pun intended). Wat it does is separate the primaries for the most part but leaves the secondaries to communicate with each other (open). Imagine if you had a spacer that was 4 hole and matched the bores of a Q-jet. If you took and carved out the material between the secondaries bores of the spacer and then rounded off the part that would transfer into the primaries but basically leave it separate the primaries. that is kind of the idea (if you can picture it). I think in the book he shows you how to make one out of wood.  I guess a notch between the secondaries would do the same thing.

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 04:03:16 AM »
Jim Hand spent more time at the track testing spacers than anyone else that I know of.  Decades later, when I did the same sort of testing, guess what?  I found that a spacer based on his "semi-open" design ran the best compared to any other.  This was on a dual plane intake, open single plane intakes work best with fully open spacers.....Cliff

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 09:39:04 AM »
Omaha & Cliff  Does this look Like what he did?
<a href="http://s38.beta.photobucket.com/user/buickgrandsport/media/Q-SPACER_zps57350868.png.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e132/buickgrandsport/Q-SPACER_zps57350868.png" border="0" alt=" photo Q-SPACER_zps57350868.png"/></a>

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 10:16:40 AM »
Do you know where you can get the book?Thanks for your help Steve

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 05:55:56 AM »
Not exactly, also remove the material between the front and rear holes, but leave it intact between the primaries.

The end result should pretty much match the opening in the aluminum intake on the left....Cliff

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Re: What Spacer
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 07:17:33 AM »
Thanks Cliff