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Offline andyinindy

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A lot of tips and recommendations to absorb!
« on: March 18, 2025, 12:48:07 PM »
Too Much Information. 😊
Not long ago I bought an all original, number matching 1968 Firebird 400. One of the earliest projects was to rebuild the original 7028265XF QJ to address a few obvious carb issues. This was in the summer of 23. I hope to wrap up the bulk of the restoration soon and focus on optimizing the performance. The first thing I would like to do is verify the carburetor is performing as an OEM should.

On this forum I recently read that someone addressed the fumes smell after turning off the car by switching to Shell Nitrogen infused gasoline.  (I do think this made a difference, Thanks)
I read about how the carb bowl can boil away the gas requiring the pedal be pumped more than a few times to fill the bowl.  After two days, I do have to pump the gas at least 1 time, and it will often start in the second try.  After a week or more it may take 3 possible 4 tries to start. Is this indicative of the fuel having evaporated or leaked?  (I did epoxy the well caps during the rebuild.)
I installed a “Narrow Band” A/F mixture gauge in the car, but haven’t installed the correct O2 sensor just yet.  Will that be of use, or should this really be a “Wide-Band” gauge?  How can this be used to make adjustments or improvements in the QJ?   Or should I rent a tailpipe A/F gauge?
I think I also read somewhere that I can spray something on and around the manifold and carb to indicate possible vacuum or other leaks.  What was that spray? I would like to confirm there are no hidden issues.
And finally, since the QJ is 57-years old, and about 100,000 miles, are there physical items that may have worn away that I might want to consider replacing.

Offline Kenth

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Re: A lot of tips and recommendations to absorb!
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2025, 12:58:35 AM »
Welcome to the Forums!

Get a 1968 Pontiac Service Manual and follow the procedures outlined.
Oxygen sensors are for computer controlled engine management systems and can possibly be used to see if the A/F ratio is close to target, otherwise they are of no use on a carbureted car.
Use the methods to adjust the carburetor according to the manual and it will work as intended. 1968 and earlier Quadrajets all leak 100% from the bottom plugs. Putting epoxy on them is like putting a Band-Aid on a severed arm. The holes after the plugs are removed must be tapped to install threaded steel plugs as a permanent solution.
Pumping the gas when the carburetor is empty due to evaporation not only tires out your right foot but also ruins the acc pump seal and wears out the throttle plate. To start a cold engine. press and release the throttle to close the choke, then let the starter (and fuel pump) work to fill the carburetor with fresh fuel until the engine starts.
Searching for vacuum leaks with flammable gases is an old mechanic trick to attract customers, the gas gets in wherever there is vacuum and raises the engine rpm even in places where air gets in where it should.
The sure way is to use a flower sprayer and spray water on the suspected spot, if the rpm drops you have found the leak.
This is a small part of what I have found after almost 40 years of screwing and servicing V8s with carburetors and I hope it helps you a little.

Offline andyinindy

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Re: A lot of tips and recommendations to absorb!
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2025, 07:02:24 AM »
Your reply absolutely helps my understanding, and your time taken to share your experiences is GREATLY appreciated.
I'll swap out the A/F gauge on the right with a vacuum gauge.  :)   Thanks