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Offline 70 1/2 TA

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Real/Restamp
« on: March 29, 2016, 03:22:02 PM »
Where can one find true examples of certain carbs (such as Pontiac 7040270 & 7040273) to be able to use as an example to learn different casting marks and part numbers so not to get stuck with a restamp. Are there any good reference articles on different markings for Pontiac, Chevy, Olds, Ford etc. I am still looking for a Pontiac 7040270 & 7040273, have found a few but just afraid to pull trigger due to so many restamps  or not getting enough pics from ones selling these carbs to see all the casting marks on their carbs. Thanks for any info anyone can provide.

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2016, 10:43:05 PM »
I WOULD TRY TO GET A NICE CLEAR PICTURE OF THE STAMP TO CLIFF FOR VERIFICATION. THERE ARE ALSO NUMBERS ON THE BASEPLATE AND AIRHORN THAT HAVE TO MATCH, I THINK. WHAT THEY CALL A PLANT CODE IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING ELSE, LIKE AN INSPECTORS STAMP MAYBE, BUT NOBODY SEEMS TO HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE CODES. THE PONTIAC RAM AIR CARBS MAY HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIFIC CODE. PRICES ARE OUT OF THE BALL PARK ON DATE CODED ORIGIONAL CARBS, EVEN THE RESTAMPS ARE SELLING HIGH. BE CAREFUL, GOOD LUCK.

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2016, 03:24:58 AM »
Good topic and questions.  I don't mind taking a look at adds on Ebay and other sources for folks who are buying expensive carburetors to verify that they are real.

At this time most of them are fakes/restamps, so don't drop the hammer on one unless you have someone verify that it is the real deal.

There is also the "bait and switch" thing, where the seller shows pics of a real one, then sends a fake after the purchase is complete.

We get a LOT of restamped Pontiac Ram Air carburetors sent to the shop, and I have to tell the seller that they have just spent a lot of money on a carb that isn't the real thing. 

There are a lot of indicators that a valuable carburetor isn't real.  First look at the price they are asking, most are WAY under what the market will bring on one.  Second, if the listing is running and no one is buying it, and the price is pretty low, rest assured it's most likely a fake.

Something else to mention here is that there are a lot of Service Replacement Ram Air carburetors out there, most were part numbers 7028276, 7029270, and 7040270.  They will have Julian Dates much later than the model year run in almost all cases, and they will NOT have a Plant Code after the number.

The did NOT make Service Replacement manual transmission units, so a BIG flag should go up if you see a manual transmission Ram Air carb for sale with a later build date on it.

Carter didn't make any either, so stay far away from a Carter casting stamped with a Ram Air part number.

If you are looking at a carb for sale, and want me to take a look at it, send an email message to the shop and we'll respond so you can send us some pictures or a link to the add.......Cliff

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2016, 02:10:19 PM »
Good topic and questions.  I don't mind taking a look at adds on Ebay and other sources for folks who are buying expensive carburetors to verify that they are real.

At this time most of them are fakes/restamps, so don't drop the hammer on one unless you have someone verify that it is the real deal.

There is also the "bait and switch" thing, where the seller shows pics of a real one, then sends a fake after the purchase is complete.

We get a LOT of restamped Pontiac Ram Air carburetors sent to the shop, and I have to tell the seller that they have just spent a lot of money on a carb that isn't the real thing. 

There are a lot of indicators that a valuable carburetor isn't real.  First look at the price they are asking, most are WAY under what the market will bring on one.  Second, if the listing is running and no one is buying it, and the price is pretty low, rest assured it's most likely a fake.

Something else to mention here is that there are a lot of Service Replacement Ram Air carburetors out there, most were part numbers 7028276, 7029270, and 7040270.  They will have Julian Dates much later than the model year run in almost all cases, and they will NOT have a Plant Code after the number.

The did NOT make Service Replacement manual transmission units, so a BIG flag should go up if you see a manual transmission Ram Air carb for sale with a later build date on it.

Carter didn't make any either, so stay far away from a Carter casting stamped with a Ram Air part number.

If you are looking at a carb for sale, and want me to take a look at it, send an email message to the shop and we'll respond so you can send us some pictures or a link to the add.......Cliff

 I agree. A lot of re-stamps out there. Sadly, for the money. Just post a good, visible photo and we will look at it. I am no expert by any means. Cliff is, but I do know a little, too. ;)
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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2016, 04:43:32 PM »
Hopefully I downloaded pics correctly. Here's what I have on the 270 carb, I notice what appears to be a double stamp on the 0. Let me know what y'all think, and thanks for the help

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2016, 04:44:38 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2016, 04:47:01 PM »
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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2016, 04:51:56 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2016, 04:54:58 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2016, 05:00:12 PM »
Another pic

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« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2016, 05:00:53 PM »
Last pic

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2016, 11:38:04 PM »
LOOKS LIKE AN OBVIOUS RESTAMP TO ME. I'VE NEVER SEEN ANY HINT OF DOUBLE STAMPING ON A REAL FACTORY STAMPED CARB. I WOULDN'T TOUCH IT.

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #12 on: April 05, 2016, 04:49:17 AM »
A much better pic of the part number would help, and a pick of the accl pump well where the rubber boot metal retainer is at......Cliff

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2016, 01:54:04 PM »
Let me know if you bis is good enough pic

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Re: Real/Restamp
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2016, 01:56:14 PM »
Let me know if this pic is good enough