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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by Cadman-iac on January 03, 2026, 10:46:33 AM »
Rick, the idle bypass air is routed differently on these units with the HIC in that location.
Marked in blue circles.

 Interesting, I wasn't aware of that. Never would have guessed that's how they routed the idle by-pass air. I'll have to take another look at my early Cadillac carbs.
 Thanks Kenth.
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by Kenth on January 03, 2026, 03:07:25 AM »
Rick, the idle bypass air is routed differently on these units with the HIC in that location.
Marked in blue circles.
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / 17057231 or 17059232 on a 472
« Last post by Cadman-iac on January 02, 2026, 10:58:17 AM »
 So eventually I'm going to be using a '69 472 in a '56 Cadillac, but I'd prefer to use a newer carburetor on it with the APT.
  I have both of these carbs, 17057231, and 17059232, but they're calibrated for a 425, and both have the primary side POE system. Is that calibration acceptable for a 472, or would they need to be "tweaked" a bit, and if so, exactly where?
 I do have multiple original '69 Cadillac carbs, and if memory serves they do not use the POE system for the primary side.
 However I don't know if the specs for an early design would necessarily work on the later one due to design upgrades.
 Any thoughts on how to proceed?

 Rick
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by Cadman-iac on January 02, 2026, 10:45:57 AM »
 Thanks for pointing that out. I'd seen the button on several tops, but never really gave it much thought. I would imagine that if you had a carb with this feature, you'd have to have that HIC valve in place or you'd have a good sized vacuum leak.

 Just thinking about this, with it in this location, your "Bypass air" from it will only be going to the one side of the carb and manifold.
 Possibly why it was moved to the center rear of the carb to evenly distribute the air? Just speculation on my part.

 Rick
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: Quadrajet vacuum ports
« Last post by SUPRCHY on December 31, 2025, 04:00:55 AM »
Quote
Too bad Edelbrock did not use the Rochester cast letters in their chart.
H is the only port they got right.

Good to know. As I am just trying to learn about Qjets, I took that at face value.

Suprchy
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by SUPRCHY on December 30, 2025, 08:09:53 PM »
Well after re-reading my previous post and looking long and hard at that cavity, I saw it. The standard HIC valve could fit there. So I ran down to the basement and grabbed the only HIC valve I have and sure enough  -  IT FITS!

Here is the proof sitting in my 7042238.

Suprchy
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by SUPRCHY on December 30, 2025, 07:47:52 PM »
To all,

Here are the Photos I have;

1.) 7042238 Airhorn Topside Pin is from the internet and shows the pin from a top down view.
2.) 7042238 Airhorn Underside Pin is from my 7042238 and shows the pin from underneath the airhorn.
3.) 7042238 Float Bowl Cavity is from my 7042238 and shows where the valve would be if it were there?

This is just my best guess so please jump in and correct me if I am wrong. I do not want to add to the misinformation that is already out there. I am just trying to figure this carburetor out.

Does this valve/compensator look like the ones that go into the rear cavity or are they different? I don't see how they could be the same if that is indeed where it fits on this carb.

Thanks for all the info,

Suprchy
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: 7042238 What is it on the airhorn?
« Last post by Cadman-iac on December 30, 2025, 02:19:14 PM »
  So that little nub sticking out of the plate on the rear of the early carbs is a test button for the hot idle compensator? Never knew that!.
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: Quadrajet vacuum ports
« Last post by Cadman-iac on December 30, 2025, 02:15:49 PM »
Too bad Edelbrock did not use the Rochester cast letters in their chart.
H is the only port they got right.

 I just got back from Tucson, and checked the lettering Edelbrock used. You're right, but why in the heck would they arbitrarily give each port a different letter designation, when it's obvious that Rochester had already done so.
 If someone wasn't paying attention to that, they could get really messed up.
 Thanks for pointing that out Kenth, I probably wouldn't have noticed that until I tried using their chart for reference. Good catch.

 Rick
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Quadrajet Carb Talk and Tips / Re: Symptoms of a warped bowl
« Last post by Cadman-iac on December 30, 2025, 02:10:45 PM »
All the warpage that I have delt with is at the point on the fuel bowl where the verticle baffle is in the secondary bores. The weakest part of the casting. Some claim they may have warped when pulling out of the mold. Warpage follows both top and bottom of the fuel bowl and is easy to see with a straight edge across both top and bottom.
Some warped pretty bad, but whenever I have pulled them apart the throttle body is always flat.

 Yes, that's the area I've found that isn't flat across the total width of the bowl. And I've found the base plate is usually flat too. Go figure!
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